{"id":2116,"date":"2023-03-18T09:49:13","date_gmt":"2023-03-18T09:49:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mpelembe.net\/?p=2116"},"modified":"2023-03-18T09:49:13","modified_gmt":"2023-03-18T09:49:13","slug":"iraq-20-years-on-researchers-assess-how-us-invasion-shapes-lives-today-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mpelembe.net\/index.php\/iraq-20-years-on-researchers-assess-how-us-invasion-shapes-lives-today-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Iraq 20 years on: researchers assess how US invasion shapes lives today \u2013\u00a0podcast"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/mend-mariwany-1424146\">Mend Mariwany<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/nehal-el-hadi-1397450\">Nehal El-Hadi<\/a>, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/the-conversation-1502\">The Conversation<\/a><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>On March 19, 2003, the United States led an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2004\/sep\/16\/iraq.iraq\">unlawful invasion<\/a> into Iraq \u2014 at the time, the reason given was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.history.com\/this-day-in-history\/war-in-iraq-begins\">the search for weapons of mass destruction<\/a>. The U.S. occupation of Iraq lasted over eight years, until the official withdrawal of troops throughout 2011.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>While the number of deaths as a result of the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq has been difficult to accurately calculate, it is estimated that <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1371\/journal.pmed.1001533\">around 405,000 deaths occurred as a direct result<\/a>. Most of these deaths were of Iraqi civilians. Hundreds of thousands of others were injured, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.unrefugees.org\/emergencies\/iraq\/\">and over nine million displaced<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Initially, this was due to the U.S. invasion, then as a result of continued conflict due to the sectarian violence that followed between 2006 and 2010, and finally because of the Islamic State group\u2019s occupation in parts of the country from 2013-17.<\/p>\n<p>In this episode of The Conversation Weekly, we speak to two researchers who examine the impact the invasion and conflict have had on the lives of Iraqis.<\/p>\n<p><iframe data-src=\"https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/60087127b9687759d637bade\/641319e909f8560011e38aba\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"100%\" height=\"190px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" data-load-mode=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe id=\"tc-infographic-561\" class=\"tc-infographic lazyload\" height=\"100\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.theconversation.com\/infographics\/561\/4fbbd099d631750693d02bac632430b71b37cd5f\/site\/index.html\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none\" frameborder=\"0\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" data-load-mode=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Sana Murrani Associate Professor in Spatial Practice and Deputy Director for the Doctoral College for the Arts, Humanities and Business at the University of Plymouth, United Kingdom. Originally from Baghdad, Murrani fled Iraq shortly after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. As part of her research, she has focused on how people cope with the traumatic effects of war.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"align-left \">\n            <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"a collage showing a map of Baghdad, the iron gate to Zeinab's home, and her father's books\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515837\/original\/file-20230316-20-w20ftn.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=237&#038;fit=clip\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515837\/original\/file-20230316-20-w20ftn.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=811&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515837\/original\/file-20230316-20-w20ftn.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=30&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=811&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515837\/original\/file-20230316-20-w20ftn.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=15&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=811&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515837\/original\/file-20230316-20-w20ftn.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1020&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515837\/original\/file-20230316-20-w20ftn.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=30&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1020&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515837\/original\/file-20230316-20-w20ftn.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=15&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1020&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=3 2262w\" data-sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\"><figcaption>\n              <span class=\"caption\">A collage visualizing one of the narratives collected by Sana Murrani.<\/span><br \/>\n              <span class=\"attribution\"><span class=\"source\">(images by Zeinab Shuker\/map by Sana Murrani)<\/span>, <span class=\"license\">Author provided<\/span><\/span><br \/>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u201cIraqis wake up to a very different landscape every single day,\u201d she points out. \u201cAnd they engaged with that landscape to have to go to work, to school.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Murrani interviewed 15 people across Iraq about their lives since the U.S. invasion. These collected narratives will be published in a forthcoming book and featured (Bloomsbury, 2024) in an upcoming exhibition. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lse.ac.uk\/Events\/2023\/04\/20220403vATR\/Ruptured-Domesticity\"><em>Ruptured Domesticity: A visual narrative of domestic responses to war in Iraq<\/em><\/a> will be on display at the London School of Economics in the U.K.<\/p>\n<p>For the exhibition, Murrani created collages and maps to visualize the stories of the people she interviewed, which will also be <a href=\"https:\/\/ruptureddomesticity.org\/\">accessible virtually<\/a>.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"align-right zoomable\">\n            <a href=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515548\/original\/file-20230315-1955-baa7d7.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=1000&#038;fit=clip\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"a collage showing fractured images of houses and prayer mats floating over a skyline\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515548\/original\/file-20230315-1955-baa7d7.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=237&#038;fit=clip\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515548\/original\/file-20230315-1955-baa7d7.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=816&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515548\/original\/file-20230315-1955-baa7d7.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=30&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=816&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515548\/original\/file-20230315-1955-baa7d7.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=15&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=816&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515548\/original\/file-20230315-1955-baa7d7.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1025&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515548\/original\/file-20230315-1955-baa7d7.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=30&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1025&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515548\/original\/file-20230315-1955-baa7d7.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=15&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1025&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=3 2262w\" data-sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\"><\/a><figcaption>\n              <span class=\"caption\">Collage visualizing Ali Al-Baroodi\u2019s story, one of the narratives collected by Sana Murrani.<\/span><br \/>\n              <span class=\"attribution\"><span class=\"source\">(images by Ali Al-Baroodi\/map by Sana Murrani)<\/span>, <span class=\"license\">Author provided<\/span><\/span><br \/>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u201cI think these stories and memories and traumas that have certainly only appeared for a very brief moment under the spotlight,\u201d Murrani explains. \u201cAnd I\u2019m thinking that this will bring back a focus on Iraq for a bit, for people to understand what has become of a country after 20 years of invasion and traumas.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"align-right \">\n            <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"a collage showing sheltering in mud houses in the Iraqi Marshes and a wooden tool used to grind flour\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515562\/original\/file-20230315-275-s4wdkq.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=237&#038;fit=clip\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515562\/original\/file-20230315-275-s4wdkq.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=813&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515562\/original\/file-20230315-275-s4wdkq.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=30&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=813&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515562\/original\/file-20230315-275-s4wdkq.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=15&#038;auto=format&#038;w=600&#038;h=813&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515562\/original\/file-20230315-275-s4wdkq.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=45&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1022&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515562\/original\/file-20230315-275-s4wdkq.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=30&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1022&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/515562\/original\/file-20230315-275-s4wdkq.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&#038;q=15&#038;auto=format&#038;w=754&#038;h=1022&#038;fit=crop&#038;dpr=3 2262w\" data-sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\"><figcaption>\n              <span class=\"caption\">A collage visualizing one of the narratives collected by Sana Murrani.<\/span><br \/>\n              <span class=\"attribution\"><span class=\"source\">(images by Jaafar Jotheri\/map by Sana Murrani)<\/span>, <span class=\"license\">Author provided<\/span><\/span><br \/>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Inna Rudolf is a senior research fellow at the <a href=\"https:\/\/icsr.info\/\">International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation<\/a> and a postdoctoral research fellow at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kcl.ac.uk\/research\/centre-for-the-study-of-divided-societies\">Centre for the Study of Divided Societies<\/a>, King\u2019s College London in the U.K. As part of her research, Rudolf has conducted interviews with Iraqis to understand how contested narratives surrounding decades of conflict have impacted the memory of various communities and their identities. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat we found out that in order for projects to contribute to social and psychological healing, they need to bring individuals together, and to create a context in which these individuals can perceive each other as humans again. Iraqis from different communities need to recognise that they were all affected by the violence and that each group carries its own scars, which need time and conditions to heal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Rudolf says that once the people recognize each other\u2019s pain, Iraqis can begin to heal their communities and their country. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cEach community wants its own victimhood to be heard, understood and acknowledged. And the more they feel that they are pushed into one category, or that their own suffering is not being taken seriously either by their counterparts, by their co-nationals or by the Iraqi government, the more feelings of alienation are likely to prevail over feelings of belonging to the state as equal citizens.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Many Iraqis want to be able to move on in order to contribute in meaningful ways to their society and actively shape their future, as Rudolf found out.<\/p>\n<p>Listen to the full episode of The Conversation Weekly to find out more.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>This episode of The Conversation Weekly was produced and written by Mend Mariwany, who is also the show\u2019s executive producer. Sound design is by Eloise Stevens, and our theme music is by Neeta Sarl.<\/p>\n<p>You can find us on Twitter <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TC_Audio\">@TC_Audio<\/a>, on Instagram at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/theconversationdotcom\/\">theconversationdotcom<\/a> or <a href=\"mailto:podcast@theconversation.com\">via email<\/a>. You can also subscribe The Conversation\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/newsletter\">free daily email here<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Listen to \u201cThe Conversation Weekly\u201d via any of the apps listed above, download it directly via our <a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/60087127b9687759d637bade\">RSS feed<\/a> or find out <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/how-to-listen-to-the-conversations-podcasts-154131\">how else to listen here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><span><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/mend-mariwany-1424146\">Mend Mariwany<\/a>, Producer, The Conversation Weekly and <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/nehal-el-hadi-1397450\">Nehal El-Hadi<\/a>, Science + Technology Editor &#038; Co-Host of The Conversation Weekly Podcast, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/the-conversation-1502\">The Conversation<\/a><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>This article is republished from <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\">The Conversation<\/a> under a Creative Commons license. Read the <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/iraq-20-years-on-researchers-assess-how-us-invasion-shapes-lives-today-podcast-201915\">original article<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mend Mariwany and Nehal El-Hadi, The Conversation On March 19, 2003, the United States led an unlawful invasion into Iraq \u2014 at the time,<a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/mpelembe.net\/index.php\/iraq-20-years-on-researchers-assess-how-us-invasion-shapes-lives-today-podcast\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2117,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"googlesitekit_rrm_CAowu7GVCw:productID":"","_crdt_document":"","activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":3,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[48],"tags":[5108,5114,4511,722,5110,5115,5106,1427,5103,5102,5113,5101,5116,4369,5100,5117,5105,5104,5107,5111,723,744,5112],"class_list":["post-2116","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-conflict-and-war","tag-ali-al","tag-ali-al-baroodi","tag-baghdad","tag-creative-commons","tag-eloise-stevens","tag-inna-rudolf","tag-invasion-of-iraq","tag-iraq","tag-iraq-war","tag-iraq-united-states-relations","tag-jaafar","tag-man-made-disasters","tag-mend-mariwany","tag-military-history","tag-military-history-by-country","tag-nehal-el-hadi","tag-occupation-of-iraq","tag-politics-of-iraq","tag-presidency-of-george-w-bush","tag-sana-murrani","tag-united-kingdom","tag-united-states","tag-zeinab"],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/mpelembe.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/file-20230315-28-ol6ha0-1024x706.png","blog_images":{"medium":"https:\/\/mpelembe.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/file-20230315-28-ol6ha0-300x207.png","large":"https:\/\/mpelembe.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/file-20230315-28-ol6ha0-1024x706.png"},"ams_acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Iraq 20 years on: researchers assess how US invasion shapes lives today \u2013\u00a0podcast - Mpelembe Network<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 led to civilian death and displacement. 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